I'm sure we'd all rather be talking about new ideas than dealing with the ravings of a grown man who literally and figuratively needs his diaper changed every day. But if we step around it like the profit-prioritized media we'll be in it up to our necks before long. Until we can move on, let's contain his bullying and dictatorial stink in this thread so we can toss it like a doggy-bag when that bright newBlue day arrives. However, since I do believe we need a break from his name and brand, any typing of his name on this forum will be converted to "The Lyin' King"

Topics related to this administration, its policies, and all-the-king's-men and women should be directed to their own threads.

People tend to believe that every unprecedented move by the would-be Prez-a-King is intended to distract from his more insidious crimes. But despite the lack of journalistic scrutiny, the public is beginning to catch on to the bigger picture.

The thing this Prez cares about first and foremost is not being exposed to prosecution and potential prison time. To that end, he must stay in office, past the midterms, and beyond...

The military, the press, the courts and Congress are being groomed to protect him from, more than crimes past -- crimes to come -- including, not surrendering the White House when his gig is up.

1 hour ago, macphysto said:

"Proper education" is a loaded, subjective, and contentious perspective.

indeed, what is "proper" is in the eyes of the beholder. What's a proper wage, proper healthcare, proper sexuality, etc..

our father's Republican Party complained that the Beatles didn't have a proper haircut. Today the Party believes it's proper for the President to poop on half of the people.

but we can, and must try to define what is and isn't proper for American government, business, and citizens. At the very least, we can do a better job of defining it than the current arbiters -- right-wing media and corporate media in general.

"prophetic?" or pathetic that it even took that long for a U.S. newspaper to air the obvious after a decade of supporting evidence?

On 10/31/2025 at 2:03 PM, V.3 said:

yes, Chris you're on the mark on all of it. It will all have to be dealt with but the first critical step is regaining the House and/or Senate in one year.

I think we can walk and chew gum at the same time. Short term yes, we can volunteer and assist in campaigns and spread the word via social media or contribute monetarily. The conundrum is that all of this is being done within a nearly 240 year-old framework that remains largely unchanged with two senators per state, regardless of population, the Electoral College, and a House where there is only only one representative for every 750,000+ of population which puts each one further out of touch with individual constituents. The First Congress had one rep for each 60,000 in population. Why not increase the number of representatives to one for each 100,000 population which would hugely inflate the number of members to 3500 if we stay intact as one country? Having a truly local and nearby rep should, in theory, make each one more accountable to your voice.

Having been around a bit and with my first small steps of active involvement while in high school with the 1972 McGovern campaign, I can say that subsequently we've always put hope for change in the future within the current structure. To some extent, we made some bits of progress with Carter, Obama, and Biden, but often wind up with partially effective half-measures. And, let's not forget that Republican Gerald Ford was pro-ERA and pro-choice on abortion. Even Nixon supported the ERA. In the early to mid-70s you had a cadre of moderate to liberal Republicans (mostly from the Northeast) which no longer exists. With population shifts changing ideologies regionally, that's why I suggest that we need to put our heads together to create a new entity commensurate to the European model economically and socially.

On 11/2/2025 at 9:47 AM, Chris said:

...I suggest that we need to put our heads together to create a new entity commensurate to the European model economically and socially.

indeed, Chris, there are many, many things we can and should do. And the European models are a good start. My plan is to explore all the options via the 3001: Space Colonoscopy thread where we will simulate building a new society from scratch.

with each criminal activity he becomes more desperate, dangerous and determined to stay in office!

i don't like playing his name game, but if the diaper fits...

Diaper Don

Dozy Don

the definitive, yet still incomplete, ongoing, Lyin' King 💩 list -- by an anonymous FB poster.

I owe my LYIN' KING-supporting family and friends an apology. I’ve been critical of the presidency and am still exhausted from the experience. But to be fair, he wasn’t that bad, other than when:

1. He incited an insurrection against the government

2. Mismanaged a pandemic that killed nearly half a million Americans

3. Separated children from their families, and lost those children in the bureaucracy

4. Tear-gassed peaceful protesters on Lafayette Square so he could hold a photo op holding a Bible in front of a church

5. Tried to block all Muslims from entering the country

6. Got impeached, got impeached again

7. Had the worst jobs record of any president in modern history

8. Pressured Ukraine to dig dirt on Joe Biden

9. Fired the FBI director for investigating his ties to Russia

10. Bragged about firing the FBI director on TV

11. Took Vladimir Putin’s word over the US intelligence community

12. Diverted military funding to build his wall

13. Caused the longest government shutdown in US history

14. Called Black Lives Matter a “symbol of hate"

15. Lied 30,000 times

16. Banned transgender people from serving in the military

17. Ejected reporters from the White House briefing room who asked tough questions

18. Vetoed the defense funding bill because it renamed military bases named for Confederate soldiers

19. Refused to release his tax returns

20. Increased the national debt by nearly $8 trillion

21. Had three of the highest annual trade deficits in U.S. history

22. Called veterans and soldiers who died in combat losers and suckers

23. Coddled the leader of Saudi Arabia after he ordered the execution and dismembering of a US-based journalist

24. Refused to concede the 2020 election

25. Hired his unqualified daughter and son-in-law to work in the White House

26. Walked out of an interview with Lesley Stahl

27. Called neo-Nazis “very fine people”

28. Suggested that people should inject bleach into their bodies to fight COVID

29. Abandoned our allies the Kurds to Turkey

30. Pushed through massive tax cuts for the wealthiest but balked at helping working Americans

31. Incited anti-lockdown protestors in several states at the height of the pandemic

32. Withdrew the US from the Paris climate accords

33. Withdrew the US from the Iranian nuclear deal

34. Withdrew the US from the Trans Pacific Partnership which was designed to block China’s advances

35. Insulted his own Cabinet members on Twitter

36. Pushed the leader of Montenegro out of the way during a photo op

37. Failed to reiterate US commitment to defending NATO allies

38. Called Haiti and African nations “💩hole” countries

39. Called the city of Baltimore the “worst in the nation"

40. Claimed that he single handedly brought back the phrase “Merry Christmas” even though it hadn’t gone anywhere

41. Forced his Cabinet members to praise him publicly like some cult leader

42. Believed he should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize

43. Berated and belittled his hand-picked Attorney General when he recused himself from the Russia probe

44. Suggested the US should buy Greenland

45. Pushed through federal judges and Supreme Court justices after supporting efforts to prevent Obama from appointing judges

46. Repeatedly called the media “enemies of the people"

47. Claimed that if we tested fewer people for COVID we’d have fewer cases

48. Violated the emoluments clause

49. Told Bob Woodward in private that the coronavirus was a big deal but then downplayed it in public
    

50. Called his exceedingly faithful vice president a “p---y” for following the Constitution
    

51. Nearly got us into a war with Iran after threatening them by tweet
    

52. Nominated a corrupt head of the EPA
    

53. Nominated a corrupt head of HHS
    

54. Nominated a corrupt head of the Interior Department
    

55. Nominated a corrupt head of the USDA
    

56. Praised dictators and authoritarians around the world while criticizing allies
    

57. Refused to allow the presidential transition to begin
    

58. Insulted war hero John McCain – even after his death
    

59. Spent an obscene amount of time playing golf after criticizing Barack Obama for playing (far less) golf while president
    

60. Falsely claimed that he won the 2016 popular vote
    

61. Falsely claimed that he turned down being Time’s Man of the Year
    

62. Considered firing special counsel Robert Mueller on several occasions
    

63. Mocked wearing face masks to guard against transmitting COVID
    

64. Locked Congress out of its constitutional duty to confirm Cabinet officials by hiring acting ones
    

65. Used a racist dog whistle by calling COVID the “China virus"
    

66. Hired and associated with shady figures convicted of federal crimes, inc. his campaign manager and national security adviser
    

67. Pardoned several of his shady associates
    

68. Gave the Presidential Medal of Freedom to two congressman who amplified his bat💩 crazy conspiracy theories
    

69. Got into telephone fight with the leader of Australia(!)
    

70. Had a Secretary of State who called him a moron
    

71. Forced his press secretary to claim without merit that his was the largest inauguration crowd in history
    

72. Botched the COVID vaccine rollout
    

73. Tweeted so much dangerous propaganda that Twitter eventually banned him
    

74. Charged the Secret Service jacked-up rates at his properties
    

75. Constantly interrupted Joe Biden in their first presidential debate
    

76. Claimed that COVID would “magically” disappear
    

77. Called a U.S. Senator “Pocahontas"
    

78. Used his Twitter account to blast Nordstrom when it stopped selling Ivanka’s merchandise
    

79. Opened up millions of pristine federal lands to development and drilling
    

80. Got into a losing tariff war with China that forced US taxpayers to bail out farmers
    

81. Claimed that his losing tariff war was a win for the US
    

82. Ignored or didn’t even take part in daily intelligence briefings
    

83. Blew off honoring American war dead in France because it was raining
    

84. Redesigned Air Force One to look like his Shuttle
    

85. Got played by Kim Jung Un and his “love letters"
    

86. Threatened to go after social media companies in clear violation of the Constitution
    

87. Botched the response to Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico
    

88. Threw paper towels and toilet paper at Puerto-Ricans when he finally visited them
    

89. Pressured the governor and secretary of state of Georgia to “find” him votes
    

90. Thought that the Virgin islands had a President
    

91. Drew on a map with a Sharpie to justify his inaccurate tweet that Alabama was threatened by a hurricane
    

92. Allowed White House staff to use personal email accounts for official businesses after blasting Hillary Clinton for doing that
    

93. Rolled back regulations that protected the public from mercury and asbestos
    

94. Pushed regulators to waste time studying snake-oil remedies for COVID
    

95. Rolled back regulations that stopped coal companies from dumping waste into rivers
    

96. Held blatant campaign rallies at the White House
    

97. Tried to take away millions of Americans’ health insurance because the law was named for a Black man
    

98. Refused to attend his successors’ inauguration
    

99. Nominated the worst Education Secretary in history
    

100. Threatened judges who didn’t do what he wanted
     

101. Attacked Dr. Anthony Fauci
     

102. Promised that Mexico would pay for the wall (it didn’t)
     

103. Allowed political hacks to overrule government scientists on major reports on climate change and other issues
     

104. Struggled navigating a ramp after claiming his opponent was feeble
     

105. Called an African-American Congresswoman “low IQ"
     

106. Threatened to withhold federal aid from states and cities with Democratic leaders
     

107. Went ahead with rallies filled with maskless supporters in the middle of a pandemic
     

108. Claimed that legitimate investigations of his wrongdoing were “witch hunts"
     

109. Seemed to demonstrate a belief that there were airports during the American Revolution
     

110. Demanded “total loyalty” from the FBI director
     

111. Praised a conspiracy theory that Democrats are Satanic pedophiles
     

112. Completely gutted the Voice of America
     

113. Placed a political hack in charge of the Postal Service
     

114. Claimed without evidence that the Obama administration bugged his Tower
     

115. Suggested that the US should allow more people from places like Norway into the country
     

116. Suggested that COVID wasn’t that bad because he recovered with the help of top government doctors and treatments

117. Overturned energy conservation standards that even industry supported
     

118. Reduced the number of refugees the US accepts
     

119. Insulted various members of Congress and the media with infantile nicknames
     

120. Gave Rush Limbaugh a Presidential medal of Freedom at the State of the Union address
     

121. Named as head of federal personnel a 29-year old who’d previously been fired for allegations of financial improprieties
     

122. Eliminated the White House office of pandemic response
     

123. Used soldiers as campaign props
     

124. Fired any advisor who made the mistake of disagreeing with him
     

125. Demanded the Pentagon throw him a Soviet-style military parade
     

126. Hired a ton of white nationalists
     

127. Politicized the civil service
     

128. Did absolutely nothing after Russia hacked the U.S. government
     

129. Falsely said the Boy Scouts called him to say his bizarre Jamboree speech was the best speech ever given to the Scouts
     

130. Claimed that Black people would overrun the suburbs if Biden won
     

131. Insulted reporters of color and women reporters and women reporters of color
     

132. Suggested he was fine with China’s oppression of the Uighurs
     

133. Attacked the Supreme Court when it ruled against him
     

134. Summoned Pennsylvania state legislative leaders to the White House to pressure them to overturn the election
     

135. Spent countless hours every day watching Fox News
     

136. Refused to allow his administration to comply with Congressional subpoenas
     

137. Hired Rudy Giuliani as his lawyer
     

138. Tried to punish Amazon because the Jeff Bezos-owned Washington Post wrote negative stories about him
     

139. Acted as if the Attorney General of the United States was his personal attorney
     

140. Attempted to get the federal government to defend him in a libel lawsuit from a women who accused him of sexual assault
     

141. Held private meetings with Vladimir Putin without staff present
     

142. Didn’t disclose his private meetings with Vladimir Putin so that the US had to find out via Russian media
     

143. Stopped holding press briefings for months at a time
     

144. "Ordered” US companies to leave China even though he has no such power
     

145. Led a political party that couldn’t even be bothered to draft a policy platform
     

146. Claimed preposterously that Article II of the Constitution gave him absolute powers
     

147. Tried to pressure the U.K. to hold the British Open at his golf course
     

148. Suggested that the government nuke hurricanes
     

149. Suggested that wind turbines cause cancer
     

150. Said that he had a special aptitude for science
     

151. Fired the head of election cyber security after he said that the 2020 election was secure
     

152. Blurted out classified information to Russian officials
     

153. Tried to force the G7 to hold their meeting at his failing golf resort in Florida
     

154. Fired the acting attorney general when she refused to go along with his unconstitutional Muslim travel ban
     

155. Hired Stephen Miller and gave him immense power
     

156. Openly discussed national security issues in the dining room at Mar-a-Lago where everyone could hear them
     

157. Interfered with plans to relocate the FBI because a new development there might compete with his hotel
     

158. Abandoned Iraqi refugees who’d helped the U.S. during the war
     

159. Tried to get Russia back into the G7
     

160. Held a COVID super spreader event in the Rose Garden
     

161. Seemed to believe that Frederick Douglass is still alive
     

162. Lost 60 election fraud cases in court including before judges he had nominated
     

163. Falsely claimed that factories were reopening when they weren’t
     

164. Shamelessly exploited terror attacks in Europe to justify his anti-immigrant policies
     

165. Still hasn’t come up with a healthcare plan
     

166. Still hasn’t come up with an infrastructure plan despite repeated “Infrastructure Weeks"
     

167. Forced Secret Service agents to drive him around Walter Reed while contagious with COVID
     

168. Told the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by"
     

169. F***ed up the Census
     

170. Withdrew the U.S. from the World Health Organization in the middle of a pandemic
     

171. Allowed his staff to repeatedly violate the Hatch Act
     

172. Seemed not to know that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican
     

173. Stood before sacred CIA wall of heroes and bragged about his election win
     

174. Constantly claimed he was treated worse than any president (four were assassinated)
     

175. Claimed Andrew Jackson could’ve stopped the Civil War even though he died 16 years before it happened
     

176. Said that any opinion poll showing him behind was fake
     

177. Claimed that other countries laughed at us before he became president when several world leaders were literally laughing at him
     

178. Claimed that the military was out of ammunition before he became President
     

179. Created a commission to whitewash American history
     

180. Retweeted anti-Islam videos from one of the most racist people in Britain
     

181. Claimed the Pulse nightclub shooting could've been stopped by someone with a gun (an armed security guard was there)
     

182. Hired a senior staffer who cited the non-existent Bowling Green Massacre as a reason to ban Muslims
     

183. Had a press secretary claim Nazi Germany never used chemical weapons (millions were gassed)
     

184. Bilked the Secret Service for higher than market rates when they had to stay at his properties
     

185. Apparently sold pardons on his way out of the White House
     

186. Stripped protective status from 59,000 Haitians
     

187. Falsely claimed Biden wanted to de-fund the police
     

188. Said that the head of the CDC didn’t know what he was talking about
     

189. Tried to rescind protection from DREAMers,
     

190. Gave himself an A+ for his handling of the pandemic
     

191. Tried to start a boycott of Goodyear tires due to an Internet hoax
     

192. Said U.S. rates of COVID would be lower if you didn’t count blue states
     

193. Deported U.S. veterans who served their country but were undocumented
     

194. Claimed he did more for African Americans than any president since Lincoln
     

195. Retweeted a gif calling Biden a pedophile
     

196. Forced through security clearances for his family
     

197. Suggested that police officers should rough up suspects
     

198. Suggested that Biden was on performance-enhancing drugs
     

199. Tried to stop transgender students from being able to use school bathrooms in line with their gender
     

200. Suggested the US not accept COVID patients from a cruise ship because it would make US numbers look higher
     

201. Nominated a climate change skeptic to chair the committee advising the White House on environmental policy
     

202. Retweeted a video doctored to look like Biden had played a song called “F**k tha Police” at a campaign event
     

203. Hugged a disturbingly large number of U.S. flags
     

204. Accused Democrats of “treason” for not applauding his State of the Union address
     

205. Claimed that the FBI failed to capture the Parkland school shooter because they were “spending too much time” on Russia
     

206. Mocked the testimony of Dr Christine Blasey Ford when she accused Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault
     

207. Was proven to be close friends with the biggest sexual predictor of young girls
     

208. Obsessed over low-flow toilets
     

209. Ordered the re-release of more COVID vaccines when there weren’t any to release
     

210. Hijacked Washington’s July 4th celebrations to give a partisan speech
     

211. Took advice from the MyPillow guy
     

212. Claimed that migrants seeking a better life in the US were dangerous caravans of drug dealers and rapists
     

213. Said nothing when Vladimir Putin poisoned a leading opposition figure
     

214. Never seemed to heed the advice of his wife’s “Be Best” campaign
     

215. Falsely claimed that mail-in voting is fraudulent
     

216. Withdrew troops from Syria which not only handed Russia and ISIS a win but also prompted his defense secretary to resign
     

217. Insulted the leaders of Canada, France, Britain, Germany, and Sweden!!
     

218. Falsely claimed credit for getting NATO members to increase their share of dues
     

219. Blew off two Asia summits even though they were held virtually
     

220. Continued lying about spending lots of time at Ground Zero with 9/11 responders
     

221. Said that the Japanese would sit back and watch their “Sony televisions” if the US were ever attacked
     

222. Left a NATO summit early in a huff
     

223. Stared directly into an eclipse even though everyone over the age of 5 knows not to do that
     

224. Called himself a very stable genius despite significant evidence to the contrary
     

225. Refused to commit to a peaceful transfer of power and kept his promise
     
     And more. But other than that. . .
     ~ Author unknown

Yes, you really are being too critical. For a demented, decrepit, narcissistic and pathetic excuse of a man, look at all he has accomplished! His biggest accomplishment and our biggest failure is he is still a free man.

4 hours ago, Lindy said:

. . . His biggest accomplishment and our biggest failure is he is still a free man.

An arguable bigger accomplishment by DJT and bigger failure by liberals and progressives: The inordinate amount of time and mental and emotional energy we devote to him (to use a popular, tiresome but true expression: DJT is "living rent-free in our heads").

Very true. It’s impossible to not be affected. It’s been 10 years of hearing about him even when he wasn’t President. It’s exhausting. I do feel the tide is turning and I can’t wait for the day we all get to see him go down and the circus of an administration go down with him.

"I have met some very bad people, none as bad as Tr@mp" Epstein wrote in 2017 to former Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers. "Not one decent cell in his body."

this is why the he has said, "smart people don’t like me" and "i like the poorly educated." But how you vote is more indicative of your emotions than your IQ.

I don’t know why I am consistently shocked every time I hear the Piggy Prez be so incredibly disrespectful and condescending to reporters. He is especially awful to the women. He’s behavior yesterday to reporter Mary Bruce made me sick. She was so brave to ask the Saudi Prince about Jamal Kashoggi. THE LYIN' KING unleashed his fury on her. Called insubordinate, disrespectful to his guest, a terrible reporter from a terrible Station and so on. I realize he is becoming completely unhinged but it’s truly hard for me to understand how any of his female voters could ever have considered him anything but a misogynistic narcissist, who absolutely has no respect for women whatsoever. Sorry for the rant. I’m pissed.

the media misses the point, as usual, and likely, deliberately. Regarding the six ex-military Senators reminding soldiers they don't have to obey illegal orders. Though the Prez has likely already violated the law and Constitution, they're warning more about what this Prez is setting up to do, rather than what he's already done.

It will be his forthcoming SECOND attempt at overthrowing the U.S. government to remain in power!

It is also about his eventual orders to have the troops shoot peaceful protestors with live ammo, and to shoot to kill...

swamp report:

TOP 5 MOST CORRUPT U.S. PRESIDENTS — Historical Consensus

⸻

1. Donald J. THE LYIN' KING (2017–2021)

Why he ranks #1:

• Only U.S. president ever criminally indicted (dozens of felony charges).

• Two impeachments (most in history).

• 34+ associates convicted/indicted, the highest number for any president’s circle.

• Thousands of documented conflicts of interest involving THE LYIN' KING businesses while in office.

• Ethics watchdogs, IG reports, and presidential historian surveys consistently rank THE LYIN' KING as lowest in integrity of all modern presidents.

Most corruption indicators of any president in U.S. history.

⸻

2. Richard Nixon (1969–1974)

An impressive and unsurprising list for THE LYIN' KING. I remember well the bad old days of Nixon, and am still amazed that anyone in my lifetime, would make Nixon look good in retrospect... But the blame can't go to just one man, in either one's case. Nowadays, the SC con majority, and the corrupt and cowardly members of his own party in DC, are also to blame for letting THE LYIN' KING get away with all this. In Nixon's day, the SC stood up to him on his abuses of power, and eventually, so did his party's congress critters. That no longer happens today, for an abusive Repub prez...

i will never understand or forgive the DNC for not running ads like this:

I can, understand that is, because they only are willing to fight dirty against progressives, not against Repubs. Why? Because their only real purpose, as a fake or controlled opposition party, is to protect the status quo for the rich and corporations, which is not only about defeating progressive candidates, but also colluding with the Repubs to serve the rich and corporations. BTW, progressive is just a modern term for socialist, used by progressives to avoid the stigma associated with socialism.. Specifically to your point, V., running those ads would offend the donors that fund both major parties, so you'll never see the DNC or corporate Dems ever running honest, brutal ads like that against Repubs..

5 hours ago, BobDylan said:

you'll never see the DNC or corporate Dems ever running honest, brutal ads like that against Repubs..

indeed. If i ran the Party we would be running ads right now that would absolutely destroy the Republicans for being accomplices to this criminal enterprise in the WH. Instead they will wait until election season and tackle the same old left vs right talking points and strategies.

Before the election I do remember seeing ads like that. It didn’t matter and it still doesn’t. Once THE LYIN' KING took the oath they all took the course in how to not answer questions ex: always blame the previous administration for anything and everything you’re being questioned on. Start practicing some lip exercises because at least once a week at the group meeting kiss Trumps ass as much as possible, even if he is asleep. This change has to come by the realization that republicans in congress and the house will not be reelected. The tide is slowly turning, at a snail’s pace but it’s happening. Once people have to start paying double or triple the amount for their healthcare things will hopefully move a bit faster.

Nice to see you again on the forums, Lindy. I missed you. V., you totally nailed it, they should be doing those ads now, but you're so right, that instead they'll wait to the next season and do the same stale left vs. right talking points, and stick to the same identity politics and culture war 💩, instead of running on lefty economic populism. Because first off, they don't stand for economic populism from the left, and haven't stood for it since the 80s, and secondly, they won't do that because it would offend their corporate donors. So they'll stick with the same bashing the Repubs on culture war stuff and ID politics, and with that, maybe even still find a way to lose races that should be easy to win. Beginning with Clinton in the 90s, the Dem Party traded unions and the working class for corporate and Wall Street cash, and we've all been paying the price ever since.. I look for more of the same tired, " We don't stand for anything economically, but at least we're not Repubs, and we differ from them on the culture war stuff", but the problem is, the working class and most voters, really don't care about the culture war stuff and ID politics, compared to economics. So even if the Repubs lie to them about economic policy and what they will deliver on it, most people will still vote for Repubs, if the Repubs at least play to their anger and grievances, while the Dems simply ignore those things, as if class war doesn't exist..

55 minutes ago, Lindy said:

Before the election I do remember seeing ads like that. It didn’t matter.

well, i sure didn't. Though it does need one more ingredient to get results. The ads needs to point out they're not attacking Republicans, they're attacking on THIS Republican and THIS Republican Congress.

likewise, the only thing getting real traction now is the Epstein scandal. Why? because, to them, it's not about their team. It's not left vs right. They believe, rightly so, that powerful Democrats are involved.

the scariest thing to consider, of all the horrors this past year, that is if it wasn't for this Epstein scandal, we would still not even be close to ridding this country of this monster!

17 hours ago, Lindy said:

"It didn’t matter and it still doesn’t. "

I agree. Ad hominem attack ads are all too common and questionably effective, IMO. Hardcore DJT fanatics dismiss them. The Undecided? Based on Election 2024, other more important matters ("It's the economy, Stupid.") were on their minds and on their radar. Everyone who paid attention to news reports and who thrived during/survived DJT's first presidential term was hip about him and his game -- and still he "won" the election.

17 hours ago, Lindy said:

"The tide is slowly turning, at a snail’s pace but it’s happening. Once people have to start paying double or triple the amount for their healthcare things will hopefully move a bit faster."

Hopefully.

During Barack Obama's terms, a popular refrain was "Obama is playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers." Well, regarding "The Donald," everyone else is playing checkers while he is playing "52 Pickup." Devil May Care Donnie goes about his merry way wreaking havoc and mayhem while The Media and Democrats scramble around every which way and pull out their hair in his wake. Ronald Reagan was "The Teflon President." Bill Clinton was "Slick Willie." DJT is "The Snake."

Hit it, Al!

See also the similarly pertinent Russian fable The Scorpion and the Frog.