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POLL: Is N@zi a 4-letter word?
3 points"Nazi" can be a 5-letter word...as in THE LYIN' KING. It can be a 6-letter word...as in "Miller". And it can be a 3-letter word...as in GOP.3 points
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Immigrants: The Truth
2 pointsThe last company that I worked for employed many immigrants, mostly from Asia (China, India, Japan) but also from Europe (England, France, Germany, Scandinavia). During T-R-U-M-P 1.0 when DJT imposed his first travel ban (against primarily majority-Muslim countries), there was widespread consternation among coworkers in the USA on an H-1B visa -- even though most of them were not from travel-banned countries. During a business meeting, I felt compelled to apologize to my immigrant colleagues. I genuinely felt embarrassed by and ashamed of the lunatic president. One coworker, from China, expressed that he migrated to America because it was "The Land of Opportunity." He had particularly been impressed with and inspired by Barack Obama's "We are the change we seek" speech (Remember those good ol' days? Remember that dignity . . . that sanity?). After living in America, he was shocked and surprised by the degree of hostility and anger in America -- that many Americans were so unhappy and "so mad."2 points
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POLL: Is N@zi a 4-letter word?
2 pointsYou're welcome, V., and I will try to abide by your suggestions here.. And I also appreciate the tolerance and patience you have shown so far, as moderator of this site. I only wish reddit and FB, for example, were also so... These days, my fav source of commentary and news, besides Commondreams.org, is Substack, not only for the many commenters, but also the seeming lack of moderation, which still seems to result in respectful and intelligent comment threads accompanying the posts. Whodu thought it, that maybe people can respectfully participate in social discussion, without the usual FB or reddit flaming and childish insults, etc.? Or it could be that the MAGA idiots just stay away from there, realizing they are just way too outnumbered and outgunned intellectually on Substack...2 points
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POLL: Is N@zi a 4-letter word?
2 pointsobviously. thank you Mac, i sincerely appreciate your contributions here. but as the only moderator i need to point out that your obsession with semantics is unproductive, and distracting to each subject they are injected in. There is a grand irony in that, although i know you wouldn't want to, if i needed someone to help as a moderator, you have the other skills necessary, but you'd be a buzz kill. also, as a reminder to everyone... there is a tendency in threads to veer into other topics i don't have the time to move posts around to more appropriate threads so, please this thread is about the nazi-like gestapo methods Americans are being subjected to PLEASE MODERATE YOURSELVES BY STAYING ON TOPIC and be as concise as possible the goal is to be a quick source of frank, organized, topic-based opinion that is hard to find via traditional sources2 points
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POLL: Is N@zi a 4-letter word?
2 pointsIt's such a shame. The airwaves were covered with ads offering $50,000 hiring bonuses to come work for ICE. Bullies, thugs and criminals responded and were hired. They were poorly trained, then handed the authority to abuse American citizens without consequences.2 points
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POLL: Is N@zi a 4-letter word?
2 pointsI have zero doubt that many ICE goons are members of Oath Keepers, Proud Boys, and pardoned J6rs, which is why they don't want their identities known and won't show their faces..2 points
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POLL: Is N@zi a 4-letter word?
2 pointsTim Walz just said it perfectly. Everything that is happening is no longer political difference it’s a moral one. There is no possible way you can watch the many versions of these shootings and believe the protesters are at fault. How the protesters are keeping this peaceful and controlled is beyond me but they are! This is how we can help. FULL SCRIPT for calling your senators in one image. Call 202-224-3121. Ask to be connected to each of your two senators (two calls total). Read this or a version of it (feel free to riff). They’re voting THIS WEEK. I’ve shown what this looks like in a reel on my page (if you need more guidance). Thanks in advance — and if you want more actionable info without rage bait, follow this account 🙏🏻 #usa #news #politics My name is [YOUR NAME] and I'm a(n) [YOUR STATE] resident. I'm calling to urge you to filibuster the upcoming Homeland Security appropriations bill. I'm sick of watching lawful citizens and noncitizens being arrested at their jobs, assaulted at peaceful protests, pulled out of their vehicles, blinded by munitions, and getting shot and killed. Senators like you need to filibuster this bill so that ICE doesn't get another penny. It already has $18.75 billion for 2026 - it doesn't need another $10 billion. My fellow [YOUR STATE'S RESIDENTS] and I will be watching your vote - and we will remember, I promise. My name again is [YOUR NAME] and my contact info is [YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND/ OR EMAIL]. My zip code is [YOUR ZIP CODE]. Thanks for listening and please do the right thing.2 points
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POLL: Is N@zi a 4-letter word?
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POLL: Is N@zi a 4-letter word?
2 pointsthe immediate lying by the Prez, Noem, Bondi, Miller and his other mobster, N@tzi gang members are off the charts. Congress needs to make it's long overdue move NOW!2 points
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POLL: Is N@zi a 4-letter word?
2 pointsif this image is real, you'll be seeing a lot of it. to clarify. It doesn't even matter if the gun was accessible to the victim. It's presence is only relevant if he was threatening the agents with it. and even if he did, again, the question is, why was he shot 4 time???2 points
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THE MEDIA MONSTER
2 pointsThe Repubs have been out to eliminate public broadcasting for decades, finally got their wish... Gotta keep those peasants ignorant, and keep all media in the private sector, where it can be just as easily controlled and censored, in fact more so here in America, than by the government...2 points
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THE MEDIA MONSTER
2 pointsOvershadowed by the tragedy in Minneapolis and continued reporting on America's raid on Venezuela: the "death" of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. On January 5, the CPB board of directors voted to dissolve the 58-year-old nonprofit corporation. sic transit gloria Big BirdBoard vote dissolves defunded Corporation for Public Broadcasting The Public Broadcasting Act of 1967 Do federal funding cuts spell the end for Big Bird and Cookie Monster? List of Public Broadcasting Systems Programs2 points
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The Lyin' King Thread
2 pointsThe amount of people in this country trying to justify the murder of an innocent CIVILIAN is mind boggling. How have humans devolved into such mindless disgusting beings? The pro life crowd sure does love when actual living, breathing humans are killed. It’s almost as if “pro life” is short for “pro controlling a woman”. I’m ashamed of this country, I’m disgusted with people I’ve known my entire life being ok with this administration and everything they’re doing. We have a literal child rapist for a dictator and that’s not a hard no? I’m scared my children won’t have anything left in their future. What can we do? Tweeting and making tik toks isn’t doing anything. We need a modern day million man march in DC.2 points
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Immigrants: The Truth
1 pointthe current corrupt, criminal administration was built on lies about immigration, and too many Democrats bought into it as a kind of ethical compromise to win voters. The truth is, if me and my family felt trapped in a neighboring country, i might cross that imaginary line in the sand too (and so would you. except for Mac, of course (-;) here's the rest of the truth https://www.facebook.com/reel/12243806963266611 point
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Immigrants: The Truth
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POLL: Can we fix the messaging?
1 pointi don't like the name game, but don't you think President Grump would have been fitting and effective messaging?1 point
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Nbp Jukebox
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alternate lifestyles
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Nbp Jukebox
1 pointBD, All I know about Art Garfunkel's association with Jimmy Webb is -- coincidentally -- his recording of Webb's song, All I Know, which appears on Garfunkel's first solo album Angel Clare. I had that album and also Garfunkel's second solo effort Breakaway. The cover on that album was a photo of Garfunkel sandwiched between actresses Helena Kallianiotes and Laurie Bird. Kallianiotes was also a belly dancer; she is immortalized in the famous diner scene in Five Easy Pieces. Bird was romantically involved with Garfunkel. In 1979 she committed suicide in his apartment. My favorite track on Angel Clare is Traveling Boy, penned by Paul Williams and Roger Nichols who also composed my favorite Three Dog Night song, Out in the Country. I don't know what Garfunkel's voice sounds like these days. I'll take your word for it that it has deteriorated. As did Marianne Faithfull's. One recording artist who probably doesn't suffer that problem is Tom Waits.1 point
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POLL: Is N@zi a 4-letter word?
1 pointSorry, Cap'n, but semantics are important - to me, anyway and obviously. Don't look now, but . . . It's vs ItsIt's is a contraction of it is, e.g., it's [it is] merely semantics. Its is a possessive adjective and means belonging to or relating to something that has already been mentioned, e.g., Its [the brain's] battery needs to be plugged into source. Meanwhlie Back at Die FrontRe veering off topic, henceforth I shall try to refrain from the committing the offense . . . or, at least, more delicately weave my tangential outbursts into the topic proper. Speakin' o' which . . . I understand the point that you're trying to make with the image of armed MAGA protesters. But my reaction to your point differs from your P.O.V. (and, I suspect, the P.O.V. of many nBP citizens). Because I am a gun-phobe and don't have a hard-on for the 2nd Amendment, concealed carry weapon (CCW) laws are repellent to me. IMO, they make communities less safe and more dangerous. So I actually agree with your photo caption. If you're going to put yourself in a volatile, potentially violent melee attended by an armed Gestapo, maybe in that case . . . Don't carry a gun.1 point
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alternate lifestyles
1 pointi tie-in to why the "doom scrolling" and other distractions drain your brain. It's battery needs to be plugged into source. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/17ZFfWwiJ4/1 point
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POLL: Is N@zi a 4-letter word?
1 pointI understand. I have always tried to fight the good fight, refusing to settle for corporate Dems as leaders, whenever possible, and protesting against our country's constant move to the right since the 1970s, but to no avail. We lefties of conscience are just too outnumbered, outspent, and muted in the mass media... And also, our side has never had any lasting, viable political representation, and I'm including Bernie, since he never had the guts to start a viable third party when he was still young enough to do it, and had the name recognition and popularity to make it happen. But instead he played it safe and stayed in his comfortable role as the congressional gadfly, because he was also too afraid of being labelled as someone who caused the election of THE LYIN' KING, the way Nader was wrongly blamed for W. being appointed by the SC..1 point
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POLL: Is N@zi a 4-letter word?
1 pointBD, except that not all of "we Americans" are responsible for the sorry-ass mess that the U.S.A. is in. Not all of "we Americans" have blood on our hands because of the recent tragedies in Minnesota. I consider my American citizenship an accident of birth (and for quite a while now not a happy accident). I feel zero kinship with or allegiance to most Americans.1 point
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POLL: Is N@zi a 4-letter word?
1 pointWhat is the "We" and "Us" jazz, Cap'n? If you feel "complicit in the rise of an American fuhrer," speak for yourself! My conscience is clear. I didn't vote for T-R-U-M-P. I didn't vote for Harris. I voted third-party (Green), i.e., I voted my principles and values. Last October you wrote "I like Green credentials, but I'd never consider a Green Party candidate in the current 2-Party System." So I get why you might feel "complicit" and responsible for the current American nightmare. BobDylan nailed it (as usual) last December when he expressed, "Why keep voting for the lesser evil, esp., in primary elections, instead of voting our hopes and true choices, so at least we are voting for something or someone we believe in or truly want? I have little respect for . . . voters who keep voting for lesser evil candidates and then turn around and gripe about how they don't get the . . . leaders they want." So when you rail against "We" and "Us" in your diatribes, Cap'n . . . In the words of Sam Goldwyn, "Include me out!"1 point
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POLL: Is N@zi a 4-letter word?
1 pointIt’s all beyond sickening. To top it off 7 democrats voted for continued funding of ICE. What is happening in Minnesota is horrible. Amazing job by the protestors and protectors. These people have heart and resilience as they are standing up to barely and badly trained Ice Agents who now have no restrictions or consequences for anything they do. I believe as of yesterday they are allowed to enter your residence without a warrant. It is amazing the restraint the protesters have shown. How long are they supposed to be terrorized by these people. It’s got to stop. These agents need to be prosecuted. HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO DIE BEFORE THIS PRESIDENT AND ADMINISTRATION CAN BE STOPPED. AND WHO IS GOING TO STOP THEM WHEN THE MAJORITY OF THE GOVERNMENT IS EITHER COMPLETELY CORRUPT OR ARE AFRAID TO DO ANYTHING. THAT ONLY LEAVES THE MILITARY AND THE MEDIA. CIVIL WAR?1 point
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POLL: Is N@zi a 4-letter word?
1 pointwhether the N@zi word is used or not, America has failed in standing up to the Gestapo measures the current government has applied to fellow human beings. The murders by ICE agents in Minnesota are the inevitable result of our failure as citizens of the world to stand up against blatant discrimination and tyranny. WE HAVE BEEN COMPLICIT IN THE RISE OF AN AMERICAN FUHRER all of the signs were there. the n@zi salutes, his take of having "good genes" and using other phrases and concepts from Hitler's greatest hits. His ex-wife even claimed in during their divorce proceedings that he kept a book of Adolf's speeches in the bedroom. but here's where those on the left and in the media were most complicit... we CAVED on the immigration issue! it was an issue that continued to be unresolved AND SHOULD HAVE STAYED UNRESOLVED until the core issue of income inequality was properly addressed people are risking their lives to cross a line in the sand with their family because of the hardships on the other side of the line we CAVED believing if we let them employ their Gestapo measures on hispanic families perhaps we could win the next election with the Democrats, it's always about scoring points NEXT election more-so than doing what's right now and properly selling what's right to the public specifically 1. we could have applied pressure on businesses that hire illegals, rather than human beings 2. we could have spoken up loudly and forcefully every time a racist discriminatory word was spoken. How many times have we heard, "they're thugs, criminals, murderer's, rapists, gang members, drug dealers, and MENTALLY ILL? -- and said nothing. the stats show the opposite. They're less likely to commit crimes. The "mentally ill" part is the clincher in a pervasive presentation that amounts to Hitler's Greatest Hit of all -- THEY'RE INFERIOR now, that's happened. In Minnesota. White citizens are being beaten and killed by highly paid (by us), barely trained, masked, armed agents of the Fourth Reich!1 point
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POLL: Can we fix the messaging?
1 pointExactly! Sustained disruption of the machine, businesses, work strikes, boycotting, schools being shut down, all of that needs to happen at the same time and be sustained, not one day protests once a month. The more of it that disrupts the economic machine, the more effective it is..1 point
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POLL: Can we fix the messaging?
1 pointThis is the kind of nonviolent protest that I think is effective and that I can totally get behind. Minnesotans strike to protest ICE surge in state: ‘No work, no school, no shopping1 point
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POLL: Can we fix the messaging?
1 pointI think the two largest parts of why we are where we are now in America, are that about a third of Americans have simply given up on democracy and politics, and checked out of it completely. They've lost hope in our government ever doing anything that will materially improve their lives by regulating corporate greed and power, as well as any sort of wealth redistribution that will reduce inequality. So they are simply living day to day, trying to survive. The second part of it, is the consolidation of mass media and social media, to where almost all of it is owned and run by right wing oligarchs, who have an overwhelmingly outsized voice, compared to centrist or progressive media, so at least 40% of Americans are constantly bombarded with right wing propaganda thru these sources, while those people never hear any factual, honest reporting on the issues, much less any progressive viewpoints. This process has been going on for decades, beginning in the 1980s with Reagan and the end of the Fairness Doctrine, followed by all the media mergers in the decades after that. Meanwhile, the rest of the corporate media, that isn't outright right wing, such as MSNBC, provides its own echo chamber for those on the Dem side, giving us alternating news of false hope and comfort, about how THE LYIN' KING's policies are hurting his poll numbers, along with doom news about his latest actions. In both echo chambers, people are not seeing the same stories as the other side, and so THE LYIN' KING's base will always remain from 34-39%. As long as his base sees everything that happens thru the framing of an invasion by brown people, that are hurting their culture, lifestyle and living standards, nothing else will matter to his base.. Even the economic pain he is causing them, will not matter to his base, because they're consuming media that says the immigrants are to blame for his base's poverty, declining income, affordability struggles, etc.. anything but THE LYIN' KING's trade policies or his cuts to social programs. Even the cuts to Medicare and Medicaid, will be seen by his base as being caused by immigrants getting free health care they don't deserve, even tho that is all lies and propaganda...1 point
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POLL: Can we fix the messaging?
1 pointit's a good question. And that's why violence is a bad idea. If protest is questionable, violence to force your ideas is obviously worse. But the question is the answer. protest is not about forcing your will on others, it should be about forcing society to QUESTION it's behavior. To examine it. The devil is in the details, and those details need to be exposed. unfortunately, sometimes, society doesn't care. people are selfish and the power mongers are manipulative. so you keep trying. Slavery, anti-civil rights, women's rights and gay rights were all examples of irrational, bad behavior but we only stuck each other with bayonet's over one of them because it crossed a threshold of inhumanity.1 point
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POLL: Can we fix the messaging?
1 pointSince we're on the subject of imagining exciting DJT beatdowns, I'd personally love to see The Prez go toe-to-toe, mano a womano with Marjorie Taylor Greene in an MMA octagon. Have you seen the guns on this gal? Just the mere thought of DJT being bodyslammed and choked out by MTG arouses me. Strictly entre nous, I wouldn't mind some of that action myself -- a figment that I cover in my forthcoming book Sick, Erotic Fantasies About Strong GOP Dominatrices.1 point
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POLL: Can we fix the messaging?
1 pointIf only we all had the superpowers of Anthony Fremont, the child monster from the TWZ episode you referenced.... Personally, I was watching the White House meeting with Zelensky and THE LYIN' KING, where THE LYIN' KING and Vance bushwhacked him, and just hoping that Zelensky would lose it and lunge across at THE LYIN' KING and clock him really good, for all of us who hate him, since unlike anyone else, he would have gotten away with it without being shot dead on the spot by the Secret Service..1 point
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POLL: Can we fix the messaging?
1 pointTo piggyback on what BobDylan said about not inciting road rage with a MAGA cult follower, let's remember that the white house is prosecuting anyone who does not agree with their agenda. Renee Good, who was murdered execution-style, is being called a domestic terrorist, and even her wife is being investigated. ICE agents are allowed to literally commit violence against citizens and then those assaulted and injured citizens are being charged.1 point
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POLL: Can we fix the messaging?
1 pointpreventing the holocaust is consistent with the approach i outlined. Hitler committed crimes before those atrocities that should have been enforced and justice should have been served before he got out of hand. Indeed laws and justice need to be enforced physically, with weapons if need be. And when Hitler's country allowed the atrocities, the world should step in with force -- weapons if all else fails. this Prez committed crimes that should have already been brought to justice, force-ably if need be. But not by you or i with pitchforks. The system is in place. It's been abused and corrupted. Civility and integrity is still valued by a significant majority. a stronger argument would be, what were our alternatives to the Civil War? I'd have to think about that... ok... the answer is the same. Don't buy products made from slave labor. Don't socialize with slavers and have dinner served by slaves at someone's house. Work to pass laws. If laws aren't obeyed, perhaps offer to buy out slaves. If money doesn't work as a last resort, pull out the pitchforks. I'm not up for the unaliving, but i'll stick one in a slavers ass, and let them sit on it for a while.1 point
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POLL: Can we fix the messaging?
1 pointI agree mac. You can't put any kind of cheating past the Repubs and their six traitors on the SC. And if they use fed troops and ICE goons to intimidate voters in blue states, as well as suppressing mail in ballots and purging voter rolls, etc.., they won't even need to declare martial law and cancel the elections. We can take nothing for granted in the new year.. I really do think it will come to civil war, from our side, not just theirs, if we are ever going to get rid of the THE LYIN' KING regime. And as far as offensive violence, any violence from our side is already defensive, not offensive, as the murder in Minnesota made it clear that THE LYIN' KING has already declared an offensive war against our side. It's just that most people on our side haven't woke up to that fact yet... As for V.'s convo with Lindy, I agree that the Dem Party is not providing any real leaders or guidance to our side, as far as direct action thru strikes, boycotts, and blackouts, and without those things, instead of just one day protests, nothing will change. Those three economic actions I mentioned above, are what actually works, because it puts pressure on the corporations that fund both the Dems and Repubs, and so it indirectly does put pressure on the pols of both parties. In that system, the 💩 flows downhill, as they say, from the donors to the pols....1 point
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POLL: Can we fix the messaging?
1 pointI can't speak for you, but I can for myself, and I am part of the left, ineffectual, marginalized, and tiny as it is in the US. But don't ever confuse the left with the Dem Party, as the Dem Party hates the left and it's the corrupt Dem Party that sold out undoc immigrants during THE LYIN' KING's first term, not the left. It's an important distinction.. And I think we can both agree that the Dem Party paved the way for THE LYIN' KING's two terms, by shafting Bernie and instead both election cycles running corporate centrist candidates, whose main selling point was them not being THE LYIN' KING, rather than campaign platforms that actually addressed the grievances and problems of ordinary Americans.. You might even say, that the Dem Party campaigns like they don't really care about winning elections, only about defeating progressives and enjoying their continued perks and privileges as the minority party in DC... Opposing the Repubs only on culture war issues just isn't cutting it anymore, not with most voters..1 point
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POLL: Can we fix the messaging?
1 pointgentlemen, or, should i say, warriors your sentiments are understandable given the current pressures on our psyches. But Malcolm X was wrong. Violence as an offensive strategy is always wrong. He accomplished nothing but to feed into the stereotypes that fueled racism. MLK succeeded by inspired masses of people to protest, including non-blacks. Gandhi also proved that masses don't need clubs, knives, or guns in their hand. the "fight fire with fire" philosophy, which we need today, is one that utilizes all legal, non-violent methods to confront violence and illegality. We have, unfortunately, been subjected to the creep of immorality to the extent that good people like yourselves may now be open to unethical behavior as a counter measure. The creep started with this Prez getting away with breaking laws and moral standards in his first term, and treating both citizens and non-citizens inhumanely. The first key breakdown was those on the left, granted him permission to treat "illegals" inhumanely. in sociological terms this rogue leader has tapped into the "reptilian" part of the human brain often described as the "fight or flight" instinct in nature. We have evolved, should have evolved beyond that. In esoteric terms, it could be called a separation from source -- the energy we all share. Or, in some wise words of a light transmitter, "do unto others as you would have them do unto you." practically speaking, morality can not be forced via immoral methods. For one thing, don't wager on ethical beings swinging a sword with more force and accuracy than the immoral. The immoral are better at violence, destruction, and intimidation -- without limitations of mercy or empathy. nay, brothers, we didn't go wrong by not fighting with them physically. we went wrong by not fighting with them intellectually and spiritually. And the tool at hand, that was not applied and enforced was LEGALITY. Yes, we're missing some laws, but enough were in place to nip their leader in the butt before the creep took hold his first term. We mistakenly trusted politicians on the left to do their jobs rather than just focus on keeping their jobs the next election because the other side was worse. so, NO. we don't have to be more like them. The separation, the survival of the fittest, the CREEP is about to spread into the world via the abandoning of the better part of America's examples and standards. It started with the incivility within Americas borders that we allowed. To reiterate and summarize. Justice is a legal matter. The strength that matters is not physical. It's in numbers. Not weapons. Re-align with what IS right, rather than THE right!1 point
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POLL: Can we fix the messaging?
1 pointThanks mac, you said it all, way better than I would, in replying to V.'s comment. We are in fascism already here in the US, even if the corporate media and the Dem Party won't use the F-word. Renee Good's murder officially sealed it, along with the coverup that began immediately afterwards and the clear picture that Jonathan Ross is going to completely get away with it, along with THE LYIN' KING and Noem.. And none of the progress of the sixties, such as civil rights, ending the Vietnam War, or the passing of the Great Society programs like Medicaid and Medicare, as well as the anti poverty programs, would have happened if we had only had MLK and peaceful protestors, etc.. Without the Panthers, the SDS and the Weathermen, waging radical civil war against the feds, the powers that be would never have made those concessions that I listed above, to the masses here. The sad thing is, as mac pointed out, that radicals of both types of movements, peaceful and violent, end up usually being either murdered, imprisoned or exiled by the state, rather than being rewarded, honored, or allowed to actually gain or hold power in the government.. So I stand by my point, we need more radicals like the Black Panthers, not less, and as long as they aren't committing violence against innocent people, who are not acting corruptly against the rights of the people, like shooting peaceful protestors or committing racist violence against minorities, I am fine with them fighting back for us.. Because the cops and the Dems sure as hell aren't going to fight for us or protect us against these fascists. The irony is that saying these kind of obvious truths would get me banned on reddit, a supposedly left-leaning site, yet owned by a right wing billionaire oligarch, so no surprise that reddit ends up being no more tolerant or open-minded about political dissension than Facebook. I hope that this site does better by us than those two have so far, under THE LYIN' KING rule... And as far as the Dem Party, what needs fixed is not their messaging, but their policies, esp. on economics, foreign policy, and civil liberties, where they are mainly Repub lite, as well as their actions, esp. when they are in power in DC. Like not delivering on much of their campaign promises. THE LYIN' KING and the Repubs can get away with doing that, because no one outside of their cult ever believes them anyway on their promises, but the Dems will always be held to a higher standard. Time to accept that and start earning the trust and loyalty of the voters, instead of running completely on how bad THE LYIN' KING is and "at least we aren't the Repubs"... All the Repub and MAGA voters care about, is THE LYIN' KING hurting and hating on the same people they hate, not him delivering on his campaign promises. Until he starts actually hurting them, they won't ever wake up or turn on him, much less start caring about the people they hate being hurt..1 point
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POLL: Can we fix the messaging?
1 pointI am more pessimistic than you are, BD. I don't think that, in this American era, shaming works. At all. After Renee Nicole Good was murdered by an ICE agent, one of her neighbors repeatedly screamed "SHAME!" at the agent. Today Vice-President JD Vance sternly lectured the press, ". . . Everybody who's been repeating the lie that this is some innocent woman who was out for a drive in Minneapolis when a law enforcement officer shot at her, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Every single one of you." Everybody's playing The Shame Game. De Republicans get shamed. De Democrats get shamed. De Right get shamed. De Left get shamed. De Media get shamed. All God's chillun get shamed. But, nobody is ever ashamed. . . . or when the revolution comes, citizens will arm themselves. Remember this couple?1 point
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The Lyin' King Thread
1 pointHe put himself in the way of it. The first nazi had no right to attempt to open her door, and nazi idiot murderer put himself in front of her car, on purpose. He knew he was going to fire his weapon. Watch the video, his hand is already reaching for his weapon as he’s putting himself in front of her. Frat boys with guns. Disappointed their dads so now they’re racist idiots with guns and absolutely no training. We need to mobilize something, anything to get someone to start doing the right thing.1 point
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The Lyin' King Thread
1 pointi'm all for protest like the No Kings and Million marches but it's time for focused protests that demands specific actions (that few Americans would object to) for example 1. Prosecute the Epstein case starting with Pam Bondi breaking the law by withholding files 2. A fair state prosecution of the Minneapolis Murder 3. End the war on Venezuela (a quick election free from US interferance) for a start1 point
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The Lyin' King Thread
1 pointI really wish that were true, but the rest of the world knows THE LYIN' KING is nuts, and so are some of his inner circle, while our country is a superpower with nukes, so I seriously doubt any other country will save us from him. Best chance is either him dying of natural causes, or the very unlikely chance of another country successfully whacking him thru assassination... Iran would be my best guess for that, and THE LYIN' KING's admin. is surely keeping an eye out for that...1 point
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The Lyin' King Thread
1 pointI’m beside myself with this one. Now that it is solely in the hands of a corrupt DOJ and FBI we know what the outcome will be. Between the stupid narrative they kept trying to push yesterday about January 6 and the murder of an innocent mother yesterday, they seem to forget we are watching these horrors pretty much in real time and they don’t care. It’s sick and if they are trying and they are trying to push us to complete violence we have to somehow control our anger and it is torture.1 point
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POLL: Can we fix the messaging?
1 pointWhen you're right, you're right. And you're right, BobDylan. To me, Professor Táíwò is naive to believe that saying "Shame!" to The Impenitent will cause them to see the error of their ways and stop their shameless behavior. During the 1954 Army-McCarthy hearings, lawyer Joseph Welch disgraced Senator Joseph McCarthy when he famously asked the ruthless Communist-witch hunter, "Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?" Back then Welch's public shaming exposed McCarthy as the villain he was, destroyed his crusader image, made him a pariah among his colleagues in the Senate, and arguably ended McCarthyism*. Seventy-two years later, the spirit of Joseph Welch endures via "left-wing" media outlets such as MS NOW, The Nation, Pacifica Radio, and newBluePlanet. But 21st century GOP reincarnations of "Tail-Gunner Joe," to date, have proven themselves to be made of sterner stuff -- monsters with hearts of stone who are impermeable to criticism and censure . . . and shame. Alas, shame won't cut it in modern America. By my lights, stronger measures for defeating The Shameless are needed. Measures considerably stronger than "our side" (as you put it) dare advocate and support (Paging Luigi and Tyler!). I'm inclined to agree with you that boycotts -- financial boycotts -- would be the best stratagem to fight and cripple, if not defeat, autocrats and their acolytes and toadies. But, good luck with that. * With notable "assistance" from broadcast journalist Edward R. Murrow.1 point
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the oil industry has an army
1 pointhe rants about ending 7 wars, yet he bombed 7 countries in one year.1 point
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the oil industry has an army
1 pointOur President has set a new precedent. He just opened the gates to encourage any dictator to just go take what and who they want. Russia, China, North Korea I’m sure are now considering similar behavior. So now that we are running Venezuela can we stop the bull💩 story of saving the lives of Americans due to drugs. We know by now this is about oil and power. As our country is deteriorating our moronic Prez is going to run Venezuela, keep making things worse for Ukraine and Gaza and Nicaragua (although I don’t know what they have that he wants but it’s something). Congress get your ass in gear because he has to be stopped. While our military is busy taking care of Venezuela the US is wide open for retaliation. Columbia and Mexico are next.1 point
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the oil industry has an army
1 pointthe implications of this "capture" of Maduro, a foreign leader, by THE OIL INDUSTRY'S ARMY is huge! Imagine another country capturing THE LYIN' KING for any of his crimes (real OR imagined) this was the plan all along. The boat bombings were just a stepping stone to a land assault, which was just a stepping stone to taking over Venezuela and its oil resources. and don't believe the KING when he says the opposition party woman, who is an oil industry leader, does not have the Venezuelan people's support to replace Maduro. The truth is, she doesn't have HIS support YET, until she agrees to the U.S. oil industry's demands. stay tuned. the KING added, "something is going to have to be done about Mexico!"1 point
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Attacks on Veganism
1 pointI respect your stand of favoring animals over humans in the Darwinian scheme of things. I don't bet or gamble on things, but if I did, my money too, would be on the animal over the human, in any bare knuckles brawl...1 point
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CAPITALISM
1 pointThat people get history and economics lessons from a 'toon exemplifies one reason why I despair for the future of America. Here are (IMO) more intellectually nutritious, more educational, more adult, and more valuable explanations of Capitalism and Socialism.1 point
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alternate lifestyles
1 pointit's more that i know me. and recognize a similar part in you. we all share the same key ingredients with a different mix. your recipe just calls for a little more salt than mine. i also know that you've got a story to tell. i look forward to hearing it one of these days1 point