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By V.3 · 7 hours ago7 hr
3001: A Space Colonoscopy

Now Available
--the startling OTHER CONCLUSIONS:
ENDING 2: THE TOWER OF POWER
ENDING 3: THE TARDIGRADE'S TALE
ENDING 4: RED WRITING HOOD EXPOSED
ENDING 5: BEYOND THE DARK OF THE MOON
ENDING 6: THE TURN OF THE SCREW
ENDING 7: A MURDER OF CROWS

By V.3 · Tue at 07:01 PM 3 days
3001: A Space Colonoscopy

the story concludes...
Ending 1: THE ME BOOKS
OCTO:
OK, my 2 armed, single-hearted, red-blooded friend. The truth is, your history was recorded in the ME BOOKS.
LINDY:
The ME BOOKS? Someone wrote down human history and named it after our "Me Generation?" That doesn't sound right. I mean, it may be an appropriate title, but, it still sounds fishy. No pun intended.
OCTO:
Well, madame. I assure you, I may be squishy but I'm not fishy, in any sense. And I've got as much brain power in one tentacle as you've got in your entire human skull. But, look, I'm already regressing. I'll summon up the evidence. In the meantime, let's break out some of those snacks and engage in more elevated repartee.
Octo softly places Lindy on a rock and they converse about many things. A large, big-mouthed Grouper shows up, opens its mouth wide, and spits out a canister. Octo opens it to show Lindy what's in it. She is amazed, tickled, and inspired. She's so excited she could wet her pants, if she hadn't already.
Lindy rings V3 (via her ring). She tells him the whole story and transmits the canister contents. V3 immediately recognizes the books, now with a few illegible title letters, worn down from centuries of being passed down from tentacle to tentacle...
MEL BROOKS:
THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD PART I
and THE NEW TESTAMENT
Octo explains that they learned lessons from the ME BOOKS. The learned what not to do from some of the mean spirited-ness of the silly creatures in volume 1. And they learned from the examples of brotherhood and selflessness from what they believed was volume 2. But since the ME people crucified the messenger of truth in volume 2, the sea community decided that the land walkers could not be allowed to evolve into existence again.
V3 dashed to his night-table drawer and opened it -- verifying that, indeed, he had retained the Old Testament, by mistake. He thought to them all: "Thank God I capsulized the better half!"
And he thought to himself, about his earth father's hand in shaping the future for him, and the life forms to follow.
THE END (1)

By V.3 · Tue at 01:38 AM 4 days
3001: A Space Colonoscopy

OCTO AND THE anti-ARMS RACE
continued...
LINDY:
Rules? Sure we all need guidelines. But why does that sound ominous?
OCTO:
I'm afraid you're right, human. I'm sorry, your name is on your name tag -- Captain Lindy Lightyear. You wear name tags? Anyway. The ominous part is what it might lead to, if we didn't have a particular rule. I must apologize again, if it sounds insulting, but what it might lead to is...um...YOU. In the evolutionary sense.
LINDY:
No offense taken. I think i understand? But why might a land crab lead to us?
OCTO:
Well, you can't be too careful. But, yes, a more readily recognizable example, according to your history, would be a mudskipper or, more accurately, a Tiktaalik or Ichthyostega which, visually, is a mix between an alligator and a potato.
LINDY
I see. I see. Right. Well, yes that isn't flattering but it makes sense, if it's the war mongering, exploiting, lusting, greed, arrogance?...
OCTO:
Frankly, my dear. It's the oxygen breath. Ha. I kid. You're not the only ones with a sense of humor. But the most dangerous aspect of you is, your hands -- the hands that build the technology that can turn faulty thinking into bad behavior and magnify it.
LINDY:
But technology in the right hands is good. What about our communication devices?
OCTO:
Don't need em. They're in our head. And interactions.
LINDY:
What about all of our entertainment delivery systems.
OCTO:
Don't need em. They're in our head. And interactions.
LINDY:
Alright then, what about our culture and history that we record and pass down through our media.
OCTO:
Don't need em. They're in our head. And interactions.
LINDY:
Games. Sports?
OCTO:
The Dolphins are playing the Sharks in the semi-finals of Touch Snoutball tomorrow. Turtles are the balls. They retract. They love it.
LINDY:
Damn it. You got me. Should we pack up and leave?
OCTO:
No, everybody deserves a second chance. We'll pretend you haven't already had a boat load over the course of your history. We'll just keep an eye on you.
LINDY:
You mentioned our history again. How do you know so much about our history, Octo? Can you read it from my mind?
OCTO:
No. Well, some. But your mind is all over the place. I mostly get a sense of you, including the sense of humor you like, so I can reflect it.
LINDY:
Then how do you know so much, Octo? I don't like loose ends.
Lindy says waves her arms around. Then, looking at his arms still dangling in the water, she adds...
No, offense.
OCTO:
I am forebode to share the source, my child.
Lindy thinks for moment, reaches into her Flight-Fanny-Pack and pulls out a Choco-Nutty Nutrition bar. She invites Octo to try it. It does, and its skin pigment changes into a flush of vibrant colors.
OCTO:
Hmmmm. That has fascinating flavors. I mean, I love a good seaweed salad but I eat it so often it's practically coming out of my gills...you got any more of those, sweetie?
LINDY:
Why, yes I believe I have a whole pack. Now, you were saying...about human history?
to be continued...

By V.3 · Mon at 07:51 PM 4 days
3001: A Space Colonoscopy

FLASHBACK: First Contact
V3 approaches a doorway at his usual, brisk, waste-no-time pace, just ahead of a women approaching from the other direction. He catches himself needlessly rushing, so he opens the door and waits. She thanks him, with a smile. Their brief eye contact feels more like two penetrating soul scans that end with a mutual blush and awkward look-away.
V3 is now a few steps behind the middle-aged African American women. The back of her hair is tied in a bun and she wears a warm coat on this unusually cold winter day -- for Florida's Kennedy Space Center -- under advanced global warming conditions.
The corridor leads to the Space Force cafeteria. Its wall is adorned with art in a wide variety of styles and sizes. The woman softly says something to herself, that V can barely hear.
V.3
I'm sorry, did you say something?
WOMAN
Oh, I was just saying, who am I to judge?
The sentence started with her glancing back at the art, but ended with her fulling turning to look him in the eyes -- with her own pair -- smiling, in coordination with her full lips -- all welcoming. Inviting.
V.3
Yes, who are you to judge?
His tone was stern, but his expression melted into an affirmation that returned her invitation with an implied, but unperformed, wink.
WOMAN
Whoa, you said that so forcefully. One might say, judgementally?
The game was afoot, they both thought to themselves.
V.3
Yup. That's me. A judge-mentalist from a long line of Judge-mentals. And from where I stand now, there's more beautiful art to consider than what's hanging on this wall.
WOMAN
Oh, I like you. Especially, you're taste.

She laughs and compulsively puts her arm around his waist. A bold, momentary move, which she would have retracted, had he not returned the gesture with his own arm. It was all in line with the open, unguarded and playful tone they had both unabashedly offered and accepted. They now walk together.
V.3
And to think. I entered this cafeteria, alone and uninspired. And in the flash of an eye, I'm alive and coupled. Would it be forward of me to offer to buy you a cup of coffee?
WOMAN
Well, considering your arm is already around my waist. And I like it. I'd be delighted, sir. My name is Munda.
She extends her free hand and they shake. Her grip is a little weak -- like her knees at the moment.
V.3
V--Salvator V. It's my pleasure to hold you.
MUNDA
Salvator? What an odd name for an...Italian? (she teased)
V.3
Yes, well, the most famous of us Sals was Salvador Dali, with the Spanish spelling with a D. But there was that great work of art by Leonardo Da Vinci called Salvator Mundi. What a coincidence. Sounds like your name. What was it again? I'm sorry, it'll take me hearing it 2 or 3 times before I remember it.
MUNDA
Munda, Munda, Munda. There. Now you're under my spell!
V.3
Obviously.
The dance continued. Feet in sync
-- all the way to the nearest, most secluded coffee table available.
MUNDA
And doesn't Salvator mean savior?
V.3
Indeed it does.
MUNDA
Well, we'll have to see about that.
The flirtations and expectations were more than V's subconscious could handle. When he was in a dream, and got too excited, he'd immediately wake up. He was. And he did. But he almost wished it was, just, a dream. But it wasn't. It was a memory. His memory of another loved one left behind to bare the full weight of humanity's pig-headed arrogance and ignorance.

By V.3 · Mon at 05:12 PM 4 days

3001: A Space Colonoscopy
3001: A Space Colonoscopy

A Short Interactive Sci-Fi Story.Chapter 1 | Chapter 2 | Chapter 3 | Chapter 4 | Chapter 5 | | Bonus EndingsBy the year 3000, it is confirmed that black holes are portals where spacetime folds like a cosmic colon. Since energy can neither be created or destroyed, what goes in is passed through and dumped somewhere else. Usually, in a day or two. The nearest black hole is discovered within reach.So begins this experiment to boldly go where few men have gone before. To explore the inner reaches of his deepest, darkest regions. To probe. To illuminate. Perhaps, to come out tainted, but learned. Purged of dangerous ideas spreading like cancerous polyps within.The mission must avoid man's past, indelicate bumblings. So, maybe the thrust of the thing is to go where a modern woman might dare go. Co-piloting the flotilla of starships on this one-year mission will be a selection of women and artificial intelligence models --participating in debate and polls.DESTINATION: Planet NewblThe year is 3001. Like countless other planets over eons, the technical evolution of earth's most advanced life-forms outpaced their ethical evolution. Instead of caring for mother earth, we plundered her. Human extinction appears inevitable. A dozen spaceships are being loaded for the journey to NEWBL, the galaxy's nearest life-sustainable, blue water, blue skied planet.to be continued--unfolded. For as long as it takes for the new colony to be stabilized...STORY KEYWhite text = a regular forum discussion post or replyBLUE TEXT= the story narrativePolls that shape the mission are linked to.Each page (of 12 posts) = a story chapter
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No King's Day: Get Froggy!
No King's Day: Get Froggy!

despite the media turning a blind eye, it's obvious America is being shaped into a regressive, repressive, dictatorship. We can not give this regime any excuse to escalate gestapo tactics. Portland protestors showed us how. Sing, dance, and get froggy on the streets. Make it a love fest.i suggest we wear light, fun costumes -- preferably with our face exposed to prove we're not trying to hide our identity and don't pose any danger (which should be obvious if you're in a full blown body suit preventing you from fighting, handling a weapon or running).be froggy in regards to free speech on this site too. The goal is to amplify our voices. But search engines are penalizing sites with foul or risque language. This site has word-filters in place to help maintain meaning. let's emphasize love over hate and peace over brute force. Yeah, i guess i'm suggesting we should get a little hippy, as well as froggy.https://www.facebook.com/share/p/16GRXnCy22/
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FAQ: Homosexuality
FAQ: Homosexuality

QUESTION: IS HOMOSEXUALITY "UNNATURAL?"Homosexuality is not uncommon in nature. Though there are cases of asexual reproduction, HETERO-sexual behavior is simply nature's tool for species re-population. Regardless, there is nothing more natural than the tactile exchange of affection between any two people regardless of what kind of parts they're equipped with.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals"Geir Soeli, the project leader of an OSLO museum exhibit entitled "Against Nature," told Reuters: "Homosexuality has been observed for more than 1,500 animal species"..."The sexual urge is strong in all animals. ... It's a part of life, it's fun to have sex," Soeli said of the reasons for homosexuality or bisexuality among animals."..."Greek philosopher Aristotle noted apparent homosexual behavior among hyenas 2,300 years ago"
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FAQ: Factory Farming -- the high cost of meat!
FAQ: Factory Farming -- the high cost of meat!

HOW MANY ANIMALS DO WE KILL FOR PLEASURE?https://www.facebook.com/groups/VeganArizona/permalink/5986478528105603"Over 23 million land animals are killed in the US EVERY DAY !!Every year approximately 72 billion land animals are killed for food globally."
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Bible Study
Bible Study

I'm a big fan of the central character. I was raised to marvel at his profound wisdom, lessons of compassion, humility and self-sacrifice that still shape my life. Some Jesus quotes make more sense than anything i've every heard. Some don't make any sense at all. Either way, the story of Jesus is the reason the Bible is best selling book of all time!Who wrote it?as historian Reza Aslan points out, "everything written in the new testament about Jesus was written by people who didn't know Jesus when he was alive."the writers were not the apostles. as was very common in the day, they wrote under the names of the apostles as a tribute to them. the term for this kind of writing is "pseud-epigraphy" The apostles were either too old or dead at the time of the writings. furthermore, they were likely incapable of it--illiterate peasants who could neither read or write.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bart-d-ehrman/the-bible-telling-lies-to_b_840301.htmlgood Christian scholars of the Bible, including the top Protestant and Catholic scholars of America, will tell you that the Bible is full of lies, even if they refuse to use the term. And here is the truth: Many of the books of the New Testament were written by people who lied about their identity, claiming to be a famous apostle -- Peter, Paul or James ...Most scholars will tell you that whereas seven of the 13 letters that go under Paul's name are his, the other six are not.imagine Martin Luther King speaking to a small group of poor and illiterate people with no audio or video recording, and several people who weren't there quoting his words at least 50 years or more later. Then, those words being hand-written, copied and recopied by hand for generations and edited by Church leaders with their own agendas, while being translated into different languages.recollecting the "I Have A Dream" speech would be about as credible as trying to recall the details of a sleeping dream.
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boycott as a daily voting system
boycott as a daily voting system

"the Revolution Will Not Be Televised" -- It Will Be Scannedthere used to be a site called buycott.com, but it does not exist anymore.It had a phone app you could use to scan a product before buying it. It would check a database to determine the profiting corporation behind the product and let you know the companies political profile.Consider the potential of educated consumers instantly pulling up that info. It makes the concept of "voting with your wallet" a practical reality. In today's world of ever increasing corporate power and decreasing democracy, consumer's purchasing power is our greatest strength and source of influence.
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Election Reform: The Prime Directive
Election Reform: The Prime Directive

Americans will look back one bright blue day and say, "I can't believe we used to let money control our elections and politicians!" As is, the corruption continues because:the politicians in office won the money game and won't bite the hand that feeds them.mainstream media won't call it out. They sell ad airtime to big spenders--us, trying to compete with big biz money.too many of us accept the misconception that the interests of big biz and us are compatible. Because we have a shot to move from the have-not column to the have-more-than-I'd-ever-need column, it's all good.Even those knowing, willing, and able to fight for what society really needs, too often take their eye off the prize -- to recognize, what in mathematical terms, is called -- THE ORDER OF OPERATIONS:The horse that is needed to carry all the other needs in the cart is ELECTION REFORM -- public financing, increased voting opportunities, secure verifiable voting, etc..It doesn't matter which candidates or what legislation the public piles into the cart because there is nothing to carry it over the money barriers.Big Business money power fuels elections and re-elections. It buys the politicians and legislation they want. We're left holding the empty bag.The result is the economy we have today. Big Biz profits and the deficit are at an all-time high, real wages are at an all-time low, and public services are being cut.Not fixing the election systemand trying to get what you want out of governmentis like PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE!
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Right vs Left Economy Record
Right vs Left Economy Record

though the DNC faced big donor pressure to move closer to the GOP corporate philosophy in modern years, it was the Democrats who gave us the 40 hour workweek, minimum wage, overtime, unemployment insurance, social security insurance, medicare, etc..this is some older info that needs current data added:Recessions Since 1950 and Party in WH at OnsetJul 1953 - May 1954 RepublicanAug 1957 - Apr 1958 RepublicanApr 1960 - Feb 1961 RepublicanDec 1969 - Nov 1970 RepublicanNov 1973 - Mar 1975 RepublicanJan 1980 - July 1980 DemocratJul 1981 - Nov 1982 RepublicanJul 1990 - Mar 1991 RepublicanMar 2001 - Nov 2001 RepublicanDec 2007- Jun 2009 RepublicanThere have been 22 recessions since 1900.16 have started under Republican leadership, 6 under Democrat leadershiphttp://www.nber.org/cycles.htmland this:Red states have been welfare states for the past 50 years getting back on average 50% more in Fed money than they pay in..they are our national debt, poorest 15 states, bottom in education, highest in per capita food stamps, welfare and etc... highest per capita rate of min wage jobs.https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1Crq61eB5B/
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Are Corporations Evil?
Are Corporations Evil?

I'd say corporations are an organized group of people too often doing evil deeds, motivated by money. Then, they go home, pet the dog and love their family like other people.At work it's only their stock price that matters. The team and investors are a mob pushing them to abandon principles to achieve competitive goals. The non-stock holders who get hurt are the collateral damage of their bunker-buster greed bomb.Unethical behavior is "normalized." Including taking risks with consumer's health and environment, covering up resulting disasters and scandals, shipping jobs overseas for slave wages and child labor, manipulating laws and legislation, etc..
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